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Wednesday, 22 October 2008

The voucher program is discussed in another post and, I believe, has gotten lost in all the other information.  It's a very important part of this change and should be highlighted.  Vouchers are an added incentive for teams to participate in the Nationals.

"Any other money over and above the $20k payback at the Masters will be used to support teams that get into the money on the Championship board - in the form of National vouchers. For example, vouchers will be worth the cost of team entry fees ($700+) and hotel rooms ($1400+) = $2100.  This is money that will be reimbursed after teams make their arrangements to go to the Nationals. This will give more teams an opportunity to go to the Nationals and encourage teams to use their winnings to participate in the National event. If a team chooses not to use the voucher, it will default to the next team in line that does."

POSTED BY: Peggy AT 03:44 pm   |  Permalink   |  0 Comments  |  E-mail this
Sunday, 19 October 2008
The comment below was made in another area of the blog.  It is very important to address again and discuss.  This is regarding which days to hold the Masters Tournament.  It seems that whatever is decided there will be a certain number of players who will be inconvenienced.  The comment below was posted from Ed after we suggested that we would hold the Masters on a Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
"I would like to say that doing Thursday and Friday 50% each day, and not being able to tell who is on each day, could pose similar issues to two weekends and not knowing which one, or could be much worse considering the majority of player normally work during the week.  What about the Thursday night leagues?  What about the teams who play earlier that week, will all leagues be off that week?"
Response:  This is an excellent question – we have a solution. Bringing this to our attention has made us re-think our position on the best way to handle this to make it as easy as possible for players to get time off. First of all,  because of past history of players having a difficult time getting two weekends off from work, we are trying to create a program that we can complete in one weekend. Ed makes a great point about playing on Thursday and having to re-arrange league play. That is simply a bad idea. Therefore, we are proposing to run the tournament on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. By doing it this way, half the teams would play on Friday, the other half would play on Saturday. All the teams would play on Sunday and the final 8 from the champion board and final 4 or final 2 from the second chance board would play on Monday. The increased benefit of this change is only half the teams would have to get Friday off and wouldn’t play on Saturday, the other half wouldn’t play on Friday and would have to get Saturday off. This is much easier than everyone having to get two complete weekends off. Furthermore, only 10-12 teams would have to take off on Monday. 
From all of our experience, we believe that holding this on one weekend causes the least amount of strain on players work schedules and that is our objective because no matter what we do, it won’t be perfect.
I polled several players about this and they all thought it was the best solution.
POSTED BY: Robert AT 05:00 pm   |  Permalink   |  0 Comments  |  E-mail this
Wednesday, 08 October 2008

It's difficult to implement a change in any organization (good luck Obama:-)!  We sent out a proposal a few weeks ago outlining a change to the method in which we send teams to our National event. We received several responses - many were in the same category, so we just took the best from each category and posted the question along with the response.  Feel free to comment on any of the posts.

Thank you.

POSTED BY: Peggy AT 11:32 am   |  Permalink   |  0 Comments  |  E-mail this
Wednesday, 08 October 2008
Some players have voiced a concern about the handicap team limits and high-rated State players coming into the league because of the money payback. How do you guard against this happening?
Currently, handicap 9’s and above come into TAP as H/C 7’s. We do not get many 10’s, 10+1’s, 10+2’s.  We have all of the State rating sheets and will diligently monitor every new player coming into the league. Before any new player is added to a team roster, those lists will be checked to ensure someone isn’t coming in under the radar. The penalties for this form of cheating are severe as they have always been. Any player discovered to have come in at a rating that is under what they should have started at will forfeit all previous win points for their team, the points will be given back to the teams they beat, and be immediately raised to the correct handicap. In addition, to protect the league from stacked teams of super players, all 10’s and above will receive a H/C of an “8.” The 8 will be counted towards the team total 25 rule; however, that player will play the same race-grid as a “7.” This is a national rule that will be implemented soon to protect all teams and players.
As an example, if a team tried to have two 8’s on their team, which equals 16, that would leave them 9 points and 3 players, so they would have to have three 3’s or a 4, a 3, or a 2 – and, if anyone went up, they would be done. The other thing to remember is that these high-rated players are not league players, for the most part, and will have to play for an entire year under our H/C rules.
POSTED BY: Robert AT 11:31 am   |  Permalink   |  0 Comments  |  E-mail this
Wednesday, 08 October 2008
“Why not raise the dues to $8 and use the extra dollar to send more teams – “I want a free ride and don’t mind paying the extra dollar”?
That would be a great idea; however, during this time of economic stress, we believe that would be a difficult “sell” to the players. We have had other players the dues are too high now, and we should reduce them. Remember, two years ago, we raised the dues by one dollar and we had numerous complaints about that. And, when we did so, we still only kept .40 out of that dollar and gave .60 back to the player payback – and there was still complaining. This player doesn’t want to pay any extra money and wants a free ride, but is willing to pay extra money all year long in hopes to getting one of the National spots.
Remember that we have implemented 4 other programs to generate additional national funding; but, with the costs of hotel and airfare going through the roof and no expectation of it decreasing in the future, it’s unlikely that we will EVER be able to send more than 4 teams to the Nationals if we continue to follow the same path. The new program will allow us to offer 12 National spots, even though the teams may have to pay part of their expenses.
POSTED BY: Robert AT 11:30 am   |  Permalink   |  0 Comments  |  E-mail this
Wednesday, 08 October 2008
“Why don’t we lower the dues to $6 and increase the end-of-session payback?”
If we lower the dues by $1 per player that would, in essence, eliminate the entire National Fund with the exception of the four new programs we developed to help increase it. If that were the case, then we would have no reason to hold a “Titleholders” or the “Masters” and we would have absolutely no National participation.
POSTED BY: Robert AT 11:29 am   |  Permalink   |  E-mail this
Wednesday, 08 October 2008
“I don’t think we should use the player’s money to rent pool tables and a Casino. I think we should have the tournament in the local bars.”
We have evaluated this option and have come up with a new plan that I think will be to the benefit to most players. In the past, it has always been difficult for many players to get two weekends off in a row due to work schedules. With the format we will be using for the Masters, we can hold the entire tournament over the course of one 4-day weekend at local bars not a casino. It will work like this; 50% of the teams will play 3 rounds on either Thursday and the other 50% on Friday. This means that you will only have to get one of those two days off in addition to the weekend. Because we are holding this event on one weekend, we will be able to give you plenty of advance notice to request that time off. All teams will play two rounds on Saturday, but we will stagger them throughout the day. Saturday will be single elimination, so once the first round is completed, 50% of the teams will be knocked out freeing up tables for the remainder of the day.  Sunday will be the final 8 of the champion board and final 4 of the second chance. The money saved and any other money over and above the $20k payback will be used to support teams that get into the money on the Championship board in the form of National vouchers. For example, vouchers will be worth the cost of team entry fees ($700+) and hotel rooms ($1400+) = $2100 that are reimbursable for cash as long as the team goes to the Nationals. This will give more teams an opportunity to go to the Nationals and encourage teams to use their winnings to participate in the National event. If a team chooses not to use the voucher, it will default to the next team in line that does.
POSTED BY: Robert AT 11:27 am   |  Permalink   |  0 Comments  |  E-mail this
Wednesday, 08 October 2008
“I think that since we are a part of a National league, at least one team should be sent to the National tournament – it should be the 1st place team in addition to the money they win.”
With the voucher program explained previously, this is part of our plan. Keep in mind the letter we sent to the players in the packets is our initial proposal and nothing about that is set in stone.  Since that letter was sent, we have already made several modifications to the program and will continue to look for better ways to improve it. Our goal is still to be a Nationally-driven league. We want our players to go to the Nationals and believe this program for the future will allow us to actually send more teams than the current design.
POSTED BY: Robert AT 11:26 am   |  Permalink   |  0 Comments  |  E-mail this


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